Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: Beretta92 on April 02, 2018, 03:41:38 PM
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I need to renew my PA, non resident CCW permit, today I found this notice on the Lancaster County Sheriff Home Page.
License to Carry Permit Changes
Updated 03/19/18
As of June 1st, 2018, the Lancaster County Sheriff’s Office will no longer process out of state Conceal Carry Permits. If you currently possess a Lancaster County Conceal Carry Permit and you are not a resident of Lancaster County, PA, your permit will no longer be valid upon expiration. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
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When asked, I always promoted Berks,
Bucks, and Lancaster Co.
Bucks Co -> BUCK’S COUNTY ONLY ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS FOR NON-RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN A STATE THAT HAS RECIPROCITY AGREEMENTS WITH PENNSYLVANIA AND HAVE A CARRY PERMIT WITH NO RESTRICTIONS FROM THE STATE THAT THEY RESIDE IN.
So they are out.
I did mine at the Reading Airport 5 years ago. Must do mine again this year.
You could try Media. Media will be 2 trips unless you are renewing a LTCF. (Renewal info from Just Bill I believe)
I do NOT know if renewing your Lancaster Co. LTCF at Media will be 1 trip or 2.
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When asked, I always promoted Berks, Bucks, and Lancaster Co.
Bucks Co -> BUCK’S COUNTY ONLY ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS FOR NON-RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN A STATE THAT HAS RECIPROCITY AGREEMENTS WITH PENNSYLVANIA AND HAVE A CARRY PERMIT WITH NO RESTRICTIONS FROM THE STATE THAT THEY RESIDE IN.
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So Bucks County is saying “We will only issue a non-resident permit to you if you don’t need one”?
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I carry a PA Non-Resident permit because when I go to the state my son lived in they don't accept a Delaware Permit, but do accept a PA permit. Well, I guess that shoots that in the @@@. Mine runs out in October 2018. Is it still possible to get a renewal by mail anywhere in PA.?
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IIRC, we can renew PA LTCF at any time. If so, I'll be headed north before Jun 1st.
Pennsylvania does recognize NH non-resident (http://handgunlaw.us/states/newhampshire.pdf) ($100 for 5 years)
From handgunlaw.us Pennsylvania webpage (http://handgunlaw.us/states/pennsylvania.pdf)
Permits/Licenses This State Honors Listed Below
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Alaska Georgia Louisiana New Hampshire South Dakota West Virginia Arizona1
Indiana Michigan North Carolina Tennessee Wisconsin Arkansas
Iowa Mississippi1 North Dakota2 Texas Wyoming
Colorado Kansas Missouri Ohio Utah1 Florida1
Kentucky Montana Oklahoma Virginia1
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1Pennsylvania Honors Non-Resident Permits/Licenses From the States They Honor Except for Arizona, Florida, Mississippi, Utah and Virginia. They have agreements that specifically states “Legal Resident of AZ, FL, MS, UT and VA. You can see the agreements Here. AZ, FL, MS, UT and VA Permit/Licenses issued to non-residents are no longer valid in PA
North Dakota2 - PA only honors the ND Class 1 Permit. (Must be 21 Years of Age)
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Evidently, you can't renew when ever you want. It must be within 60 days of expiration according to this from another site:
Copy and paste from a PA county site:
My License expires soon. How soon can I apply for a renewal?
You may apply up to 60 days before the date of expiration of your current License. We will not accept applications that are completed more than 60 days prior to expiration.
Viewed: 732 times Created on: 11/2/2017 Modified on: 11/2/2017
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Berks Co or Delaware Co.
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IIRC, we can renew PA LTCF at any time. If so, I'll be headed north before Jun 1st.
Pennsylvania does recognize NH non-resident (http://handgunlaw.us/states/newhampshire.pdf) ($100 for 5 years)
From handgunlaw.us Pennsylvania webpage (http://handgunlaw.us/states/pennsylvania.pdf)
Permits/Licenses This State Honors Listed Below
IANAL, but I think NH is a NO GO.
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Signed_NH_Agreement.pdf (https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Signed_NH_Agreement.pdf)
2nd paragraph of the agreement.
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Just off the phone with a lovely lady from DelCo. She said they take up to the 45 days allowed
for new AND renewals. WILL issue non-res LTCF(s). $20.00 CASH.
Depends on where you got the original and/or where you go. Some are 30 min, some are 2 wks. My initial trip to Media(Delaware County) was two trips about 2 wks apart. Renewal was about 15-20 minutes. You must have your current DE permit, but expiration does not seem to matter.
Bill,
I dont think you are allowed to bring them flowers or candy.....
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IIRC, we can renew PA LTCF at any time. If so, I'll be headed north before Jun 1st.
Pennsylvania does recognize NH non-resident (http://handgunlaw.us/states/newhampshire.pdf) ($100 for 5 years)
From handgunlaw.us Pennsylvania webpage (http://handgunlaw.us/states/pennsylvania.pdf)
Permits/Licenses This State Honors Listed Below
IANAL, but I think NH is a NO GO.
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Signed_NH_Agreement.pdf (https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Signed_NH_Agreement.pdf)
2nd paragraph of the agreement.
By my reading the NH non-resident permit would be recognized by PA. The second paragraph is a description of the purpose and mentions “citizens” of NH but the first enumerated paragraph states “ will recognize valid New Hampshire permits” without limit to resident permits. Then again, PA could revise the 2004 reciprocity agreement at any time as they did with AZ, FL, & UT among others.
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I do have a non resident PA permit issued by the Media, PA Sheriff. It expires mid April. Unlike Delaware it expires even if you have renewed. That is why I looked at Lancaster, PA, because I can drive up and get it the same day. I may re apply for the Media, PA permit and also get one from Lancaster.
Can you have two permits from different PA. counties?
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That’ll hit me next year. So far, I’ve had Centre, York, and Lancaster — and now it looks like I’ll have to shop for another. It really doesn’t make any sense, because it’s not negatively impacting the other jurisdiction (if that is their plan) — just the people willing to come from there and spend money in Pennsylvania.
And I can’t even begin to imagine what they’ll change between now and then.
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All of this beginning to worry me about PA recip. Some will issue non-resident, some will not. Is my DELCO permit good in other PA counties, etc.????? Is the Wolf doctrine spreading??? Sounds like Cal....NAH!!!
Bill
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Sounds political to me. Looks like the Liberal Democrats are flexing their muscle on the county sheriffs. Seems odd that after all these years they have just decided to stop issuing non-resident state permits, at the county level. I'm betting there's more to it than meets the eye.
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Went to Lancaster, PA. Court House yesterday, applied for and received my non resident permit in 20 minutes total time. It I valid in all 67 PA. counties.
I asked why they are not going to issue non residents permits after June 1, 2018. The answer is that the new sheriff is not confident in the system that should notify them that a non resident permit holder committed an offense that would require that their permit be invalidated. They were very helpful and friendly people.
They are trying to get the word out that if you are within two months of having your PA non resident permit expire to come in asap and renew.
After June 1 they suggested to go to York county for a non resident permit.
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Went to Lancaster, PA. Court House yesterday, applied for and received my non resident permit in 20 minutes total time. It I valid in all 67 PA. counties.
I asked why they are not going to issue non residents permits after June 1, 2018. The answer is that the new sheriff is not confident in the system that should notify them that a non resident permit holder committed an offense that would require that their permit be invalidated. They were very helpful and friendly people.
They are trying to get the word out that if you are within two months of having your PA non resident permit expire to come in asap and renew.
After June 1 they suggested to go to York county for a non resident permit.
Thanks for a very useful post.
I looked at the York County Sheriff firearms Web page (https://yorkcountypa.gov/courts-criminal-justice/court-courtrelated-offices/sherifs-office/concealed-weapons-permits/licenses-to-carry-firearms.html). It appears that the best strategy there is to mail in the application, and then pick it up in person after it's approved.
"Processing time is typically less than 1 week. However, under state law the background checks can take up to 45 days. Once your application is approved our office will contact you. We will notify you via email or phone."
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OGG,
Did you look into Berks Co (Reading Airport)? 5 years ago it was in/out. That's where I'm headed in a few months.
For me going to York Co takes me into Maryland and add 30 miles & 25 minutes to the drive.
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Went to Lancaster, PA. Court House yesterday ...
I asked why they are not going to issue non residents permits after June 1, 2018. The answer is that the new sheriff is not confident in the system that should notify them that a non resident permit holder committed an offense that would require that their permit be invalidated.
I’m not a big fan of interpretations such as this, as they can eventually lead to “well, you haven’t committed a crime, yet, but you could — so therefore you shouldn’t be able to carry a gun, or even own a gun.”
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I looked at the York County Sheriff ."
Nearly twenty years ago, I went to the York office. Back then, you had to drop off the stuff in person, so that they could take your photo, and then drive back. On the phone they mentioned that it was possible that it could be done that day, but not to count on it. They got it done so quickly that I didn’t even leave the counter! It can be a hike, though, but it’s possible to hook it in with a trip to Lancaster, or That Fish Place, or something else. Last time in Lancaster, I was going to a concert and just went early enough to run in and get it renewed.
Whichever place is chosen, it’s probably a good idea to call the day before and get an idea about what is going on.
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I have 2 years left on my PA non-resident permit. Hopefully, that will change.
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https://co.lancaster.pa.us/372/Firearms-Unit
DE CCW holder here and I was planning to head to Lancaster county to apply for a non resident license. But it appears effective 6/1/18 they will no longer process non resident permits and all prior issued permits will expire ? Does PA only license for the respective county in which you apply?
What is another county I can try? I live in Kent County.
Thanks
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What is another county I can try? I live in Kent County.
Thanks
Merged here.
Short answer call Berks Co.
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I'm pretty sure "If you currently possess a Lancaster County Conceal Carry Permit and you are not a resident of Lancaster County, PA, your permit will no longer be valid upon expiration." means:
If you go up there before 6/1/2018, they will issue you an out-of-state LTCF that expires in five years, and it will no longer be valid after the five years.
So, head on up there and get your (last?) same-day permit.
Edited to add: My Lancaster County LTCF expires in May 2020, and I expect it will be valid until that date even after (if?) Lancaster County stops issuing out-of-state permits.
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Lancaster has gone back and forth with this in the past couple of years. Hopefully, they will change their mind again.
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Edited to add: My Lancaster County LTCF expires in May 2020, and I expect it will be valid until that date even after (if?) Lancaster County stops issuing out-of-state permits.
I’m fairly certain that the current permits will remain valid. The question that I am starting to develop involves “renewals” — which may become an issue. On one of the Pennsylvania boards, there are some thoughts on a Commonwealth-wide press on not issuing NEW permits, but continuing to issue RENEWALS. This could become a problem if our permits expire after June of this year, and we switch counties. Remember, each permit is county-specific, and when you apply in a new county — it is a new permit, and not a renewal.
I haven’t followed up on that thought, though.
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Wandered up to Lancaster this morning. In and out in 20 minutes as usual. Let them know how much we Delawareans appreciate how we all have been treated in the Sheriff's office, and that we all will miss coming up there. They said things are always changing, so don't hesitate to call before coming up.
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Just received this from the Berks Co. sheriff. Same sheriff in office 5 years ago.
Guess where I will be going for my renewal?
EDITED to add the application.
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I went to the Reading airport 2 weeks ago to renew. Same place I went 5 years ago. In and out in 20 minutes.
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My co-worker just told me about this. I've made my notes and will check back to see if anything changes by January 2019 (when I can renew my PA Non-Res permit). Also made note where to go if I can't go to Lancaster. Delaware Co, then York, then Berks.
I might try Chester County (way closer) since my father seems to now some sheriff in there, but I'm going to make a big deal about it. I'll have to ask him to ask his sheriff friend and see what happens.
Whatever. I got time.
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My co-worker just told me about this. I've made my notes and will check back to see if anything changes by January 2019 (when I can renew my PA Non-Res permit). Also made note where to go if I can't go to Lancaster. Delaware Co, then York, then Berks.
I might try Chester County (way closer) since my father seems to now some sheriff in there, but I'm going to make a big deal about it. I'll have to ask him to ask his sheriff friend and see what happens.
Whatever. I got time.
Chester County does not accept out of state applications.
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Chester County does not accept out of state applications.
Well that really STINKS.
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Chester County does not accept out of state applications.
Well that really STINKS.
It dose.
Sheriff Welsh came to a UT CCDW class I was assisting with. They introduced
me to her. Nice lady very PRO2A. When she came to me to be finger printed I said
I know who they said you were but I don't know you, may I see ID please. She w/o
issue pulled out drivers license. Then rolled her prints.
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Yes. That’s “Bunny” Welsh. Claims to be pro gun but denies non residents and makes Chesco residents wait
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"Bunny" must be under real political pressure to yield to this nonsense.
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Yes. That’s “Bunny” Welsh. Claims to be pro gun but denies non residents and makes Chesco residents wait
Sometimes “pro-gun” doesn’t mean that anyone else’s gun rights matter. Remember, “... some animals are more equal than others.”
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IIRC, we can renew PA LTCF at any time. If so, I'll be headed north before Jun 1st.
Pennsylvania does recognize NH non-resident (http://handgunlaw.us/states/newhampshire.pdf) ($100 for 5 years)
From handgunlaw.us Pennsylvania webpage (http://handgunlaw.us/states/pennsylvania.pdf)
Permits/Licenses This State Honors Listed Below
IANAL, but I think NH is a NO GO.
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Signed_NH_Agreement.pdf (https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Signed_NH_Agreement.pdf)
2nd paragraph of the agreement.
By my reading the NH non-resident permit would be recognized by PA. The second paragraph is a description of the purpose and mentions “citizens” of NH but the first enumerated paragraph states “ will recognize valid New Hampshire permits” without limit to resident permits. Then again, PA could revise the 2004 reciprocity agreement at any time as they did with AZ, FL, & UT among others.
Just found this....
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Reciprocity-Summary.pdf
Page 12
Pennsylvania recognizes concealed carry licenses issued by states without applying for a separate Pennsylvania concealed carry license – if the concealed carry license holder is (1) a resident of that state and (2) 21 years of age or older. Pennsylvania specifically recognizes concealed carry licenses from the following states regardless of reciprocity type:
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That would be great but De is not on that list .
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So just to be clear, if we have a PA non resident from lancaster, it will still be valid in PA after they stop issuing the permits, correct?
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So just to be clear, if we have a PA non resident from lancaster, it will still be valid in PA after they stop issuing the permits, correct?
Yes, your PA LTCF is valid through its marked expiration date.
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So just to be clear, if we have a PA non resident from lancaster, it will still be valid in PA after they stop issuing the permits, correct?
Yes, your PA LTCF is valid through its marked expiration date.
Thanks, saw conflicting information so I just wanted to clear that up.
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Heading to Lancaster tomorrow morning for the and 1 of the kids to get PA carry, I will report back on any issues but I am thinking it will be good for 5 years. Also side trip to get salt for pool at Cope, kill 2 birds in 1 trip.
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A friend (not on the forum) got his permit in Lancaster last week, and they assured him it is valid until its expiration date.
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Wife and son were in and out 1/2 hour, good for 5 years. Everybody in line was from DE.
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Guess I'm done for on the PA permit deal. Friday is the 1st of June and I can't get to Lancaster to renew. My permit is good until October. I guess I'll just have to hope something changes and they start reissuing to De. permit holders again.
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Guess I'm done for on the PA permit deal. Friday is the 1st of June and I can't get to Lancaster to renew. My permit is good until October. I guess I'll just have to hope something changes and they start reissuing to De. permit holders again.
You do have the option of other counties. Berks(Reading) is same day in and out. Delaware County (Media) you have to make two trips.
Remember that if you have a carry license from any state you may carry in your vehicle. You may also open carry on foot without a license Except in the city of Philadelphia. The only reason you really need a Pennsylvania license to carry a firearm is to carry concealed on your person on foot and also to carry in the city of Philadelphia
I might also add That a license covers you in a gun free school zone.
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Guess I'm done for on the PA permit deal. Friday is the 1st of June and I can't get to Lancaster to renew. My permit is good until October. I guess I'll just have to hope something changes and they start reissuing to De. permit holders again.
You do have the option of other counties. Berks(Reading) is same day in and out. Delaware County (Media) you have to make two trips.
Remember that if you have a carry license from any state you may carry in your vehicle. You may also open carry on foot without a license Except in the city of Philadelphia. The only reason you really need a Pennsylvania license to carry a firearm is to carry concealed on your person on foot and also to carry in the city of Philadelphia
I might also add That a license covers you in a gun free school zone.
I’m going to Reading this Friday, the deputy I spoke with said he and the Sheriff welcome everyone who comes by. I’ll let you know on Friday how it actually goes.
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Great. Thanks
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I’m going to Reading this Friday, the deputy I spoke with said he and the Sheriff welcome everyone who comes by. I’ll let you know on Friday how it actually goes.
Went there 5 years ago w/o any problems. Will be going back in a week or two to renew.
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I was the line at Reading Regional Airport Wednesday afternoon, doing a renewal in five minutes.
I filled out the application before I left home (you can sign and date it before you appear).
I was asked for my DL, my DE CCW and $20.00. The copies I made of my DL and CCL were not wanted.
Had my photo taken and signed the electronic pad.
The fellow behind the desk did some typing, scanning and laminating.
Rick
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I've decided to try for a Virginia non-resident CC Permit, in lieu of the defunct (for me)PA permit. It covers as many if not more states I would be likely to travel to and is part of Delmarva. VA is a "shall Issue" state. Might cost a few bucks more, but I have no ties to Pa., and travel to and through Va. more often than Pa. I have pulled up the application and requirements on the Va. State Police website.
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Well I drove up there (Reading airport) and arrived at 10:00. Their system was down and they couldn’t process any of our renewals. Apparently the system was down statewide.
I’m going to try to renew again Monday. I’m going to wait and drive up after I check if the system is back up.
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I've decided to try for a Virginia non-resident CC Permit, in lieu of the defunct (for me)PA permit. It covers as many if not more states I would be likely to travel to and is part of Delmarva. VA is a "shall Issue" state. Might cost a few bucks more, but I have no ties to Pa., and travel to and through Va. more often than Pa. I have pulled up the application and requirements on the Va. State Police website.
Virginia is good to have. The one annoyance is that the renewal also requires a fingerprint which as far as I know no other state does.
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I still have some questions about VA. N/R CC Permit. Am going to contact them and get answers. Will continue to supply info I get.
May take some time though. VA. is recognized by 31 States including PA., so I see no need for a PA permit.
People also ask:
Which states recognize Virginia concealed carry permit?
alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Iowa, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin, West Virginia, ...
legallyarmed.com/resources/statelist.html
When I travel to the Mid-West, VA covers every state I would go through, except MD. and Ilionois , of course.
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FYI Pa does NOT recognize VA non resident permits and I’m fairly certain that they do not recognize non residents from any other state as well. Also if I am not mistaken they have stop recognizing VA resident as well. I will go and find the source for my statements and post as soon as I can find them again
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Where Pennsylvania grants reciprocity to another state’s concealed carry licenses (whether through written reciprocity agreement or mutual statutory reciprocity) only individuals who are both residents of the state and 21 years of age or older may carry a concealed firearm in Pennsylvania.
Source:
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/reciprocity-overview/
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I still have some questions about VA. N/R CC Permit. Am going to contact them and get answers. Will continue to supply info I get.
May take some time though. VA. is recognized by 31 States including PA., so I see no need for a PA permit.
People also ask:
Which states recognize Virginia concealed carry permit?
alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Iowa, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin, West Virginia, ...
legallyarmed.com/resources/statelist.html
When I travel to the Mid-West, VA covers every state I would go through, except MD. and Ilionois , of course.
South Carolina also does not recognize non-resident permits. Your Delaware will cover you in Illinois but only in your vehicle.
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Thanks. Been there, done that.
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I had to produce fingerprints for FLorida. We I took DE class I included the FL course and had to get ink prints at DETroop same time as it was cheaper.
I've decided to try for a Virginia non-resident CC Permit, in lieu of the defunct (for me)PA permit. It covers as many if not more states I would be likely to travel to and is part of Delmarva. VA is a "shall Issue" state. Might cost a few bucks more, but I have no ties to Pa., and travel to and through Va. more often than Pa. I have pulled up the application and requirements on the Va. State Police website.
Virginia is good to have. The one annoyance is that the renewal also requires a fingerprint which as far as I know no other state does.
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I still have some questions about VA. N/R CC Permit. Am going to contact them and get answers. Will continue to supply info I get.
May take some time though. VA. is recognized by 31 States including PA., so I see no need for a PA permit.
People also ask:
Which states recognize Virginia concealed carry permit?
alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Iowa, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin, West Virginia, ...
legallyarmed.com/resources/statelist.html
When I travel to the Mid-West, VA covers every state I would go through, except MD. and Ilionois , of course.
South Carolina also does not recognize non-resident permits. Your Delaware will cover you in Illinois but only in your vehicle.
2 Places I never stop. Maryland and Ilionois.
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Well I drove up there (Reading airport) and arrived at 10:00. Their system was down and they couldn’t process any of our renewals. Apparently the system was down statewide.
I’m going to try to renew again Monday. I’m going to wait and drive up after I check if the system is back up.
The system was back up at 1300. I was in there at 1500. Took grand total of 5 minutes.
Then onward to Hawk Mountain Scout Reservation to train adults to become shooting
sports directors for their local councils. GREAT WEEK!
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Well I drove up there (Reading airport) and arrived at 10:00. Their system was down and they couldn’t process any of our renewals. Apparently the system was down statewide.
I’m going to try to renew again Monday. I’m going to wait and drive up after I check if the system is back up.
The system was back up at 1300. I was in there at 1500. Took grand total of 5 minutes.
Then onward to Hawk Mountain Scout Reservation to train adults to become shooting
sports directors for their local councils. GREAT WEEK!
I went back up Monday. The deputy apologized for the inconvenience and said the guy on Friday should have taken my info and processed it when the system was back up, then he should have mailed it to me.
I was 10 minutes from walking in to walking out.
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UPDATE AS OF 6/20/18
This is on the sheriff's web site
"An applicant for a license to carry permit must be at least 21 years of age and reside in Lancaster County,
Pennsylvania, or currently posses a valid permit in their state of residency. Proof of age and residency must
be furnished when the application is submitted."
So I called 717 299-8000. After pressing (I THINK) 4 3 4 to speak to a person in the firearms unit,
I was told they DO NOT issue NR LTCF. I could check some other county.
Berks Co. is still the place to go for 1 stop shopping. Media for 2 stops.
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So is it easier to go to the Reading Courthouse or to the Airport? I'm probably going to go this Friday or next.
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Easier at airports but check website for Berks Sheriff as one week a month the airport is not available (they go to other locations). Also they break for lunch hour 1 to 2 at all locations.
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Sorry for being lost, but for the sake of "lower , slower downstaters" who rarely go to PA., exactly what airport are you talking about?
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Reading Airport
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Click here (https://www.google.com/maps/search/Berks+Sheriff/@40.3553981,-75.9616987,14z/data=!3m1!4b1) to bring up a Google map with the Berks County Sheriff main office and airport locations.
Click here for the offsite location schedule (http://www.co.berks.pa.us/Dept/Sheriff/Pages/LocationstoObtainFirearms.aspx).
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Thanks, but I'm still leaning towards a VA. Permit. Can get one here on Delmarva, and covers a range of states more practical for my needs.
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Easier at airports but check website for Berks Sheriff as one week a month the airport is not available (they go to other locations). Also they break for lunch hour 1 to 2 at all locations.
Yup. I've aware of that 3rd week of the month stuff & the lunch breaks :) . Thanks for your opinion, Clarence. I'll try to hit the Reading Airport substation when I go. I think most people say they go there. I guess the parking is easier and free?
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Call first to make sure PICS is up. I went to the Reading Airport on my way to Hawn Mountain for NCS. In/out in 5 minutes.
Was there around 3:00. Said PICS just came up at 1:30. Yes, LOTS of free easy parking.
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So, I can get my renewal at Lancaster?
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That would be a NO on Lancaster Sheriff's office.